Sen Wisher: “I’ve always liked the idea of limitations”

Ben Swisher has made an album themed around the sounds of vacuum cleaners and it turned into a super cool song collection! He started writing music and performing under his artist name Sen Wisher when he lived in Provo, Utah. He was helping out at a recording studio in the house he lived in and eventually decided to go to music school. He now studies and lives in Eugene, Oregon.

Q: You just released a new album titled “Vacuum Sing”. Did you start out with a concept or did it evolve as your were recording new music?

A: I had some friends who were making marathon records, where they would get together and they would try to write and record music, mix and master everything in 24 hours. That was really refreshing. I’ve always liked the idea of limitations because it’s really easy to overthink everything. That inspired me to want to make a record with two friends, Colin Hatch (aka Lindenfield) and Emily Brown, who are musicians and friends who I really admire musically and I guess we just wanted to get together and work with a concept, which happened to be vacuums. We didn’t have any music planned and with as close to 24 hours as possible we tried to write songs from scratch and record them and I think it turned out really cool.

Q: How did you decided on vacuum cleaners as the theme?

A: That’s a good question. Because it just sells so well? Everyone wants to hear about vacuums… My mom used to clean private practice doctor’s offices as a custodian when I was a kid. To save money on baby sitting and because I would rather be with my mom than some random mean teenager, my brother and I would go and keep my mom company while she was doing that and kind of help her with certain things and I would do my homework in the waiting room. There was something about certain sounds that I associated with who my mum was and hearing my mum vacuum so much, it started to become very musical for me for some reason. Because I was a kid, I just started making weird sounds – because that’s what kids do – I started to realize that I could imitate the sound of a vacuum and it transitioned into me realizing it was a form of harmony. I basically learned how to sing by harmonizing with vacuums and I always wanted to pay homage to that.

Q: You have sounds of vacuum cleaners on your album. People have figured out how to best record an acoustic guitar, there are experts who have written about how to best record a trombone but how did you approach recording vacuum cleaners?

A: We didn’t have enough time to really go into it. We thought, what if we had vacuum cleaners and tried improvising three part harmonies over them. We just tried different microphones and I think ended up using a Sure SM7, a broadcasting microphone, which are great. We used those and an Electro Voice RE 20 on a lot of the vocals as well. It was hard to mix the sound of the vacuum cleaner and to isolate the overtones. In person it’s more clear what they are, on the record it’s almost more a noise, which I still think is very interesting. And we used reverb to highlight or recreate what was happening in person.

Q: How do you approach writing music?

A: Prompts are really helpful. Sometimes it’s fun to aimlessly meander through ideas but I think there are times where I say, I need to write something that will cheer me up or I want to write something that’s fun and uptempo. I’m very driven by concepts. Writing an album about vacuums is like a philosophical or emotional representation of a lot of different things for me. I’m driven to tell stories through unconventional means in music. Sounds come to me more like an environmental response. Songs become an eco-system to a concept that I want to illustrate and it has living components.

Q: How does this translate into a life performance?

A: Right now I perform on my lonesome. It’s a discovery process. When you record a song, you capture that idea in that moment but music and songs are living things. For it to keep being relevant that song evolves. I don’t ever get to the point where I think that I’m perfectly representing this idea. I’m always discovering new ways to emphasize an emotion. Right now it’s just me singing and I have a delay pedal, a pitch shifter and harmonist that make my guitar sound glittery and ethereal. If you could hear crystal that would be sound I want my guitar to make. But I’m still discovering it. I’m also working with Ableton and starting to think about using samples to add meaning to things I recorded at one time.

The interview originally aired on KWVA’s show “Umloud Radio” hosted by Julia Mahncke aka DJ Almost Exactly like Julia.

Video and Album Art by Natalie Wood

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Skiing: “You become a city person, whether you want to or not.”

Everett Darling (Skiing)

Everett Darling is an elementary school teacher by day and a fabulous musician by night. He is based in Berlin, Germany and his latest EP is named after his band and another band he collaborated with: “Skiing & Mother of the Unicorn”. 

Darling grew up in Olympia, Washington but made his way over to Europe 10 years ago. He lived in a small town in Estonia and from there took a trip to Berlin. He fell in love and decided spontaneously to move and be with his new boyfriend. When he arrived back in the German capital, however, his love interest never showed up at the place they agreed to meet at. Darling stayed anyways.

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Q: What made you stay in Berlin?

A: I lived in a village of about 250 people before and I was ready to party, to be part of life. There is so much light and so many people everywhere. I had never lived in a big city before. The people here are real city people, sort of unfriendly and quick.

Q: Have you become one of them?

A: Definitely! One moment I think we should all be nice and get along and the next I’m ready to kill someone because they are walking to slowly on the escalator or they are not obeying the German rule: stand on the right, let people pass on the left. You become a city person, whether you want to or not.

Q: When did you start making music?

A: My parents gave me a drum set when I was six, aber lange Rede kurzer Sinn, I started the Skiing project in Berlin six years ago. I’ve always made my own music but never released it, never really stood up for it. Six years ago I was playing music with my friend Diana, who is also from America, and we were kind of irritated with the Berlin scene. It’s really serious. Everyone is super serious all the time. It’s also dudeville, everyone is a straight, white dude. We were really excited to present something different, if not to just have a really good time with each other making a lot of noise. So, it started as a punk project and it has gradually become more melodic. Diana moved back to America and I played with a lot of people in the meantime. I got better at playing instruments in general and now I just do everything myself pretty much. I invite people to sing, friends from Berlin or Italy, Russia…

Q: When I think of the music scene in Germany, my impression is that it’s much harder to get your foot in the door than in the US. Being a musician is sort of an outlandish idea. How do you feel about the scene?

A: I agree with you. Growing up in Olympia, I always felt like everyone was a musician. It’s so easy and it’s not so serious. Getting a show in Berlin is not easy. It’s a lot of work. At the beginning it was very difficult. In Olympia, when your friends were playing a show, you could just say: Hey, I have a new band. How about we do a show next week? In Berlin there are not that many quality bands. They are really derivative, they sound a lot like 90s American indie bands. Sometimes it’s fun, it’s like going back in a time machine, other times it feels really lame. Everything’s already been done or said. But people should do what they want – if they love the 90s, more power to them.

Q: How did you choose the name “Skiing”?

A: I used to always listen to music while skiing and there is not a lot of music that fits to skiing. There is my music and there are The Bats, a really cool band from New Zealand. The Replacements have a few songs that sound nice while skiing but not every song. So, I thought the music I make should fit well to the sport. It’s smooth, a bit like flying. There are intense moments with an adrenaline rush, there are moments of beautiful gliding and sometimes it’s stressful. The body hurst, there are feelings and emotions involved. Also, skiing is a sex move, when you give hand jobs to two men standing on either side of you. That’s called skiing. That’s actually an afterthought. That was not the original idea behind it.

Q: You record mostly by yourself. What is a live performance like?

A: Right now I’m working on this video project. I play live with the bass and I sing and behind me on a projection screen are recorded videos of myself or whoever was playing on my album. So, it’s a mixture of playback and live performance. It has some limitations, I can’t improvise, but on the other hand it’s freeing. I don’t have to find the time to practice with people, which is difficult because of my busy schedule. It also brings people closer to the performance because there are subtitles on the screen. People can read them, understand the lyrics, which are really important to me, and the third thing is, it’s really easy to travel when I go on tour. I just have to bring my computer – or even just a chip card – and my bass and voilá! Most clubs have a projector or someone can get one, plug it straight into the PA and that’s it.

Q: Are the subtitles in English or German?

A: They are in English and in different colors. It’s a little bit Karaoke style and people can sing along if they want. At my last show it was really cool. Some people start to know some of my older songs and at one point I stepped back and and was like, this really feels like a live show. And the disadvantage I had felt, that it’s missing the live energy, sort of corrected itself because of the audience participation which is really nice.

The interview originally aired on KWVA’s show “Umloud Radio” hosted by Julia Mahncke aka DJ Almost Exactly like Julia.

Photo by Skiing

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Danielle Ate The Sandwich: “There’s a real beauty in getting to the underlying layers of people”

Danielle Ate The Sandwich (Danielle Anderson) is not impressed with the superficial layers of life. The musician from Fort Collins, Colorado released her sixth album in September 2016: “The Terrible Dinner Guest” presents to her audience a group of songs that show off her folk songwriting skills, feature humorous and thoughtful lyrics side by side and arrangements that will make your head bob.

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Q: You named the album after one of the songs: “The Terrible Dinner Guest”. What is the song about and why did it become the title track?

A: The song “The Terrible Dinner Guest” to me in a nut shell is a song about being shy. I was inspired to write this song when I was at a dinner with some really cool and interesting people. They were talking about something I didn’t know about. After a while the conversation turned to me. I had nothing to contribute and I had been spending a lot of time stewing my own regret for not having wonderful and interesting things to chime in about. I was mad and gloomy and grumpy. I started to write the song that night, as I went to my guest room and I was thinking: What’s my problem? I’m shy, I don’t know what to say at any given time. How am I supposed to be an adult, if can’t communicate with other adults? I kept going with the idea of not knowing what to say, feeling left out – even when you’re surrounded by people.

I chose it for the album title because it’s an intriguing title, it’s kind of funny and because it’s a very important song for me. I find myself in this place a lot and I wanted to make it the title track to honor shy people and the shy person I’ve been a lot of my life.

Q: What would a perfect dinner look like for you? Probably not with strangers and not with people who ask all kinds of weird questions?

A: On the contrary! I think it would be an excellent opportunity to dine with strangers who were asking weird questions. What hurts me is when I’m with a bunch of people who have something in common that I don’t have in common with them. I really like to get to know strangers. I feel like an ideal dinner would be to pick some random people off the street and have some “would you rather” questions figured out in the middle of the table. There’s a real beauty in getting to the underlying layers of people. Small talk is horrible.

Q: I would love to know more about your approach to recording this album. Was there anything that you set out to do differently compared to your previous releases?

A: Yes, I wanted to do everything differently. I wanted to record differently, I wanted to work with new people, I wanted the songs to sound a bit different. I’m a folk singer-songwriter and I really like my style, very mellow and simple arrangements – but with this one I wanted to jazz it up a little bit. In some aspects make it actually sound jazzy and in other aspects make it sound more pop-y, more obviously feminine. In line with me growing up as a woman and performer, I kind of wanted the instrumentation and the production to sound like I had made my choice on purpose and was sticking with it. With the simpler arrangements and folk sound of my previous records I often find that it has come off as insecure. For these new songs I wanted to walk into the room and make a statement as compared to asking for permission.

Q: You enlisted some help. How was the collaboration process?

A: I had written the bones of the songs and then I went to Norfolk, VA to record with my friends Skye Zentz, who is a singer-songwriter, and she co-produced this record, and Jacki Paolella, who is also a musician and she recorded and engineered the record. We talked about what we were going for and bringing other players and musicians in on it, they put their own spin on the songs. I usually want all the credit to myself and I want to say ‘Oh, you liked that? Well, I do everything on my own.’ Because I’m an introvert. And I have control issues. And I’m the best at everything I do, haha. And again for this record I wanted to knock that off and say ‘Wait, you have great ideas, Danielle, but so do a lot of people. To get out of this comfortable indie/folk hole you’ve been living in, it would really pay off to ask people for help and listen to their suggestions.’ And that’s what I did.

Q: One of my favorite songs on this album is “Two Places At Once”. I remember you posted a version of it some time ago on YouTube and someone commented on it saying what a great cover song it was. It’s one of your originals, obviously, but it does feel sort of like a classic. What do you remember about writing it?

A: I wrote it a long time ago. It was a song I wrote when I was moving away from home. I moved from Colorado to Minneapolis, essentially for a relationship and for a new adventure. At the time my mom was having a hard time taking it personally. I wanted to write this song to clarify that I wasn’t moving away for any other reason than my own desire to taste every adventure that’s out there for me. I called it a goodbye letter – it’s a goodbye letter to my family and pep talk letter to myself, ‘It’s gonna be okay, you’ve gotta do this. Life is hard but life is good’. The sentiment of being in two places at once is that apology to my mom: ‘I can’t be two places at once.’ I wanted it to feel very genuinely folk song. I do that a lot. A lot of the new songs on the album are poppier, kind of jazzy or Motown influenced but it still feels very natural to me to write a folk song and to really draw back on my inspiration I got from my folk heroes.

The interview originally aired on KWVA’s show “Umloud Radio” hosted by Julia Mahncke aka DJ Almost Exactly like Julia.

Photo by Cooper James

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